Hello all! This is the second half of our talk about “White Men Can’t Kiss,” Roseanne‘s episode about implicit racism and its effects. Here, we continue to deal with what we found especially effective about this episode, as compared to “very special” episodes about race on other TV series – 90210, for example. Starting with Dan’s awkward conversation with Chuck during the guys’ poker game through to the final scene in which Roseanne encounters Gina’s father (and her own racist assumptions), we unpack the successes and failures of the racial politics of this episode. While we do talk about the present, and the racism of our subject’s titular source, we spend our time primarily on this single episode. We hope you’ll listen and tell us your thoughts.
We’ve been wanting to do this one for a while, and the moment seemed right. This is the first half of our discussion of the classic Roseanne episode, “White Men Can’t Kiss,” in which DJ is supposed to kiss a girl (his future wife, Gina) in the school play, and doesn’t want to, because she is Black. DJ’s racist response creates conflict and concern between Dan and Roseanne, who both newly recognize and reveal some of the racist attitudes that they both unconsciously hold. In our conversation, we talk about what the episode does that feels very progressive, even now, and we try to unpack ways that this episode and the two series have missed opportunities to do and say even more about anti-Black racism. We are pretty academic and serious here, but we also accidentally talk for too long about Shia LeBouf and the movie Cocktail, as well as our mutual love of hand-me-down, mismatched bedsheets. We’ll post the second half in the very near future, so stay tuned!
Join us as we wrap up our discussion of season 2 of the Conners! In this episode, we discuss The Conners season 2 finale, “Bridge over Troubled Conners,” in which the Conner home is at risk of foreclosure, meaning hard times for Dan and tough decisions for Darlene and Ben. We explore our own love for the Conner house, the memories we hold there and the lived-in feel of the set, as well as our memories of our own family homes. Other topics include Becky and Emilio’s storyline and this episode’s excellent guest stars—David Pasquesi (aka “Stew the Meat Man” from Strangers with Candy) and Joel Murray (aka sad-sack Freddy Rumsen from Mad Men). We evaluate season 2 as a whole and express our wishes for season 3, as well as carry on far too long on such issues as laughter on TV shows, Sebastian Bach’s compelling turn on Gilmore Girls, David Healy’s potential future as a crazy cat lady, and our desire to spend more time among birds.
We hope you’ll tune in…and stay tuned as we look back to classic Roseanne for our summer episodes!
Darlene, why are you being such a Karen? I mean…she confesses to harassing a cop and living to tell the tale – and in fact, didn’t she JUST defy a cop and go to jail a few weeks ago? Oh, man. At any rate, this episode begins with our discussion of “CPAPs, Hickey’s, and Biscuits.” We talk a bit about Darlene and Ben’s relationship progression, and how, like, they aren’t really doing things in the normal order, but that’s cool. More than this, we coo a bit over Dan and Louise sealing the deal (they DO IT), and how maybe this CPAP storyline is an allegory for the importance of wearing your dang mask when you go out! Louise is SO COOL, and like Dan says, she even looks hot in her bedtime bonnet and eye mask strips.
We pair this with a fine old episode of the original series called “Born to be Wild,” in which the Conners are visited by an old friend and his Harley. Ziggy reminds Dan and Roseanne about their younger days, feeling the wind in their hair… and he agrees to help Dan fix up his old bike that has been lying dead and rusting in the garage. Leather jackets are worn by all, and somehow we end up with a lengthy appreciation of Bob Seger. Please enjoy our latest installment, and stay tuned as we finish out season 2 of The Conners!
Hi folks! In our latest episode, “Sister Stories,” we discuss The Conners episode “Pilot Lights and Sister Fights,” which focuses on the romantic reunion of Dan and Louise and a flare-up of tension between Darlene and Becky, who has been bonding lately with Darlene’s BF Ben (Jay R. Ferguson). Darlene’s stress over trying to have a baby seems to trigger her old feelings of insecurity related to her sister, who has always been considered the more “popular” and personable of the two Conner girls. We analyze this new conflict in relationship to classic Roseanne season 7 episode “Rear Window,” in which Becky and David start to become close while he and Darlene are broken up. Oh, and this episode also features a hilarious A-plot of Roseanne and Dan peeping at their new, VERY elderly nudist neighbors who don’t seem to catch onto Roseanne’s witticisms about “crack” and “Uranus.” Join us as we dive into these episodes and other pertinent issues like the classic stoner film 9 to 5; Maura’s illustrious childhood turn in The Velveteen Rabbit; the mysterious, sartorially-challenged nature of keyboardists; Arby’s, and more!
In this podcast episode, we focus in on the dowager Harris, Bev. The world’s nitpicking-est mom, the devotion-seeking grandmother, the ever-youthful-and-probably-a-vampire Bev, so perfectly portrayed by also likely-to-be immortal Estelle Parsons. We begin by talking about recent The Conners episode, “The Ice Woman Cometh,” which finds Bev returned to Lanford with money in hand for precious Mark’s summer camp for smartypants. Darlene pursues equal money for Harris, betraying the deserving Mark in cold fashion. We question Harris’s inexplicable new career aspiration – to go to tattoo school (Listen. That’s really not a thing.) And Dan’s heart breaks over Louise, but at least we get to see Katey Segal rock with a full band. Next, we discuss the similar original series episode from Season 5, entitled “Mommy Nearest,” wherein Bev gives Jackie and Roseanne $10,000 each from her divorce settlement, with the caveat that she’s moving to Lanford. You can imagine how Jackie and Dan react. There’s a LOT of horse talk in this episode, as well as a detailed description of a totally problematic Jackie sweater, and a rant connecting Breaking Bad and Tiger King. Please join us!
In our latest installment of 714 Delaware St., we discuss the two most recent episodes of The Conners, “Beards, Thrupples and Robots” and “Tats and Tias.” We express our sadness at the dashing of Jackie’s relationship hopes with Ron and Janelle (who are not what they seem), lament the show’s overly simplistic and ungenerous plot involving Becky and Emilio’s hostile aunts, and provide a thorough analysis of the central storyline involving Darlene and Harris. With Darlene and Ben’s new magazine still ramping up, Darlene turns to Harris for a job at Price Warehouse. Suddenly she’s the one acting like a bratty, entitled teen, and we take a closer look at Darlene and Harris’s fraught relationship, Harris’s flippant attitude, and Darlene’s inability to be assertive and set rules for her children. We also explore the usual tangents on issues such as the deeply troubling Tiger King, Crossroads and our national need to protect Britney, Maura’s love for ’90s Britpop assholes Oasis, and Katherine’s fascination with Honey Boo Boo. Tune in!
Hey everyone, we’ve got a nice one here for you—another trip to Season 3 of the original series, to visit the episode entitled “Home Ec.” This one finds Roseanne giving a lesson in feeding a family to Darlene’s Home Economics class. Here, we digress an awful lot, mostly about the presence of a teeny Leo DiCaprio in the background of Darlene’s classroom, and about our own junior high school Home Ec nightmares. Mostly, we talk about salad dressing. Catalina? What the *&% is that?
In our latest episode, we recap the Conners season 2, episode 14, “Bad Dads and Grads,” in which Darlene and Ben ponder having a baby (or he forces her to ponder, depending on your perspective), Jackie ponders joining guest stars Jennifer Grey and Clark Gregg in a throuple, and Dan works through his anger toward his late father and reconnects with Ed Jr. (“little Ed”), his father’s son with Crystal. We express skepticism about Darlene and Ben’s baby-making haste and complete enthusiasm for Jackie’s potential new lease on love, but focus mainly on Dan, looking back at the two-part classic episode from Roseanne season 3, “The Courtship of Eddie, Dan’s Father”/”The Wedding,” which tells the story of Ed Sr.’s marriage to Crystal and her pregnancy. We parse inconsistencies in the storyline from then to now, and wonder why Crystal (our beloved Natalie West) can’t come back and clear up this mess. As always, we also indulge in some tangential discussions — of our favorite Leap Day TV episodes, the creepy genius of Flowers in the Attic, and our love of sweaters (plus, you won’t want to miss Katherine’s rendition of John Denver’s “Rocky Mountain High”). Join us!
Hey listeners! After a short delay, we present to you our most recent discussion of two recent episodes of The Conners, which we’re calling, “If I were Dwight.” In this, we take on “Live from Lanford,” the live episode written around the New Hampshire primaries – a fun and successful effort in live broadcasting, we think. We do feel sad about Dan and Louise’s breakup, but we also think it’s a little weird that everyone acts like her 3-month tour is such a lengthy time away. Like, why can’t she go on tour AND stick it out with Dan, you know? Harris is still an a-hole, but Mark is a cutie pie. The main thing, though, is that our friend Dwight is such a PAL to Louise and to Dan, and he’s really delivering the goods in terms of Lanford’s Steel Magnolias spinoff. We also discuss the episode following, “Brothers, Babies, and Breakdowns,” in which Ben gets really intense about wanting a baby all of the sudden. While we think he’s a Hot Dad™, we think he’s putting way too much pressure on Darlene to do something she doesn’t want to do. Dwight, again, is perfect as he shows up, breaks down, and pulls through (in that order) for the Lunch Box as Lanford’s next big stew chef. Thank goodness! Lastly, we freak out about the appearance of Little Ed, Dan’s brother and Crystal’s son, who calls on Dan to help him deal with the aftermath of Big Ed’s death. HOLY CRAP. But, wait, what? Where IS Crystal? We hope you listen and enjoy as you catch up with The Conners along with us!